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policy in afghanistan. but for good that, we want and let you know that yesterday president obama presented the medal of honor -- honor to sgt petry. he presented it to him tuesday for seizing all live grenade in attempting to hurl it away from his men during a firefight in afghanistan. an act that the military says save the lives of two other army rangers. in the ceremony, the president speaks to the very essence of america, and no matter how hard the journey, no matter hard to climb, we do not quit, we do not give up. this is more from the sergeant talking about his particular efforts in afghanistan, in pakistan rather. >> today we honor a singular act of gallantry. as we near the 10th anniversary of the attacks thrust our nation into war, it is the occasion to pay tribute to a soldier and a generation that has borne the burden of our security during a hard decade of sacrifice. i want to take you back to the circumstances that led to this day. it is may 26, 2008. in the remote eastern afghanistan, near th
policy in afghanistan. but for good that, we want and let you know that yesterday president obama presented the medal of honor -- honor to sgt petry. he presented it to him tuesday for seizing all live grenade in attempting to hurl it away from his men during a firefight in afghanistan. an act that the military says save the lives of two other army rangers. in the ceremony, the president speaks to the very essence of america, and no matter how hard the journey, no matter hard to climb, we do...
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and it includes savings from winding down wars in iraq and afghanistan. these are real savings that cbo scores at about $1 trillion. we know some republicans will quibble over these savings, but they have no legs to stand on. the wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cuts. if conducting the war's adds to our debt, it is undeniable that winding down the wars deliver savings. the administration tells us with the wind down in iraq and afghanistan, they can prosecute the war is on about $630 billion over the next decade. the cbo assumes $1.67 trillion on more funding through 2021. by adopting the lower administration number, we can save over $1 trillion. we know the republicans agree with this math, because they included the exact same savings in the paul ryan budget that passed the house. they never criticized such accounting then. it is hard to see how they could do so now. last, senator reid's proposal allows for a joint committee that has the potential to achieve even deeper savings down the road. all in all, this is
and it includes savings from winding down wars in iraq and afghanistan. these are real savings that cbo scores at about $1 trillion. we know some republicans will quibble over these savings, but they have no legs to stand on. the wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cuts. if conducting the war's adds to our debt, it is undeniable that winding down the wars deliver savings. the administration tells us with the wind down in iraq and afghanistan, they can...
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i just returned from a trip to afghanistan. i cannot describe how impressed i am with the commitment, the dedication and the work carried out every single day by our men and women in uniform and those in the civilian services. i met and spoke with them in kabul, bases and air force bases and small villages. quite simply, they are incredible. but over and over and over again, i heard the same message, this is not sustainable. the strategy that we are pursuing in afghanistan is not sustainable and it is costing us too much in human lives and financial resources to continue. it can't continue for another 18 months as called for by the president, let alone even longer. i stand here tonight more convinced than ever that it is time to forge a new path, a new strategy, built upon past and present accomplishments and more aggressively focused on reducing the military footprint in afghanistan than the plan described by the president last month, accelerating the transition of combat operations and intense international and regional effor
i just returned from a trip to afghanistan. i cannot describe how impressed i am with the commitment, the dedication and the work carried out every single day by our men and women in uniform and those in the civilian services. i met and spoke with them in kabul, bases and air force bases and small villages. quite simply, they are incredible. but over and over and over again, i heard the same message, this is not sustainable. the strategy that we are pursuing in afghanistan is not sustainable...
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army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the violence depends on where you are. these to have strong relationships with kabul, with a lot of traffic. today, these are what i call, bombing galleries, where the coalition troops and a large coalition presence is trying very hard to like this town in order to protect this. but every step that they take, they are threatened. thousands every year, that are killing hundreds of native troops, and many times the number of afghans. as we move closer to the border, and you had se, the threat will change. this is not so much ied's because there is less vehicle traffic. the coalition soldiers and
army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the violence depends on where...
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forces from afghanistan. i speak today as the daughter of a lieutenant colonel who fought in several wars, one who knows the trauma and devastation of wars on families. i want to be clear that our service men and women have performed with incredible courage and commitment in afghanistan. they're doing everything we ask them to do. but the truth is, they have been put in an impossible position. they are fighting in a way with no military solution an no end in sight. only a political and diplomatic solution and a regional stabilization strategy will end this war. in fact, this concern of war without end is why i oppose the resolution authorizing military force on september 14, 2001. it began a series of of blank checks that we have been writing for nearly a decade there. there are few things we know with certainty regarding the situation of afghanistan. we know that corruption persists unabated and in many cases has been fueled by the u.s. occupation and influx of foreign cash. president karzai has proven himse
forces from afghanistan. i speak today as the daughter of a lieutenant colonel who fought in several wars, one who knows the trauma and devastation of wars on families. i want to be clear that our service men and women have performed with incredible courage and commitment in afghanistan. they're doing everything we ask them to do. but the truth is, they have been put in an impossible position. they are fighting in a way with no military solution an no end in sight. only a political and...
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in afghanistan. i was only help -- hopeful to lead a small sample of those downrange, to look them in the eye and let them know how much i appreciate what they and their families do for our country. looking forward i knew that it would be very difficult for me to express my feelings for these young men and women, in a way that would allow me to get through this speech. a personal message from me to all of the servicemen and women across the world was published and distributed in the military channel. i will just say that here -- i will think of these young warriors, the ones who fought and keep on fighting, and those who never made it back until the end of my days. and as i was contemplating this moment i thought about something becky told me in january 2005 when i was as to the first director of national intelligence. i was wrestling with this decision and i told her she could make it easier if she said she did not want to go back to washington. she said, you have to do what you have to do. this is
in afghanistan. i was only help -- hopeful to lead a small sample of those downrange, to look them in the eye and let them know how much i appreciate what they and their families do for our country. looking forward i knew that it would be very difficult for me to express my feelings for these young men and women, in a way that would allow me to get through this speech. a personal message from me to all of the servicemen and women across the world was published and distributed in the military...
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is the afghanistan central government introducing the rule of law? have we not already defeated al qaeda? and so who are we fighting and why? for $10 billion a month, mr. speaker, our expectations as taxpayers, as americans, as members of congress should be high. is it too much to think that $10 billion a month to buy a stable ally, ally capable of standing on its own two feet, taking responsibility for its own security and having respect for the rule of law? instead, corruption and chaos are ruling the day in kabul. basic government institutions are failing to provide services. president karzai has tried to establish a special court, in fact, for the purpose of stripping 62 members of parliament of their seats and the financial system is teetering on the brink of collapse. with the head of the central bank fleeing the country and accusing karzai's regime of fraud and cronism. just a few days ago, mr. speaker, a brawl broke out on the floor of the afghanistan parliament with one member throwing a shoe at another member when a motion was proposed to i
is the afghanistan central government introducing the rule of law? have we not already defeated al qaeda? and so who are we fighting and why? for $10 billion a month, mr. speaker, our expectations as taxpayers, as americans, as members of congress should be high. is it too much to think that $10 billion a month to buy a stable ally, ally capable of standing on its own two feet, taking responsibility for its own security and having respect for the rule of law? instead, corruption and chaos are...
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not know exactly what is going to do, but is expected he is going to count winding down the war in afghanistan as a substantial part of the savings. that could be worth about $1 trillion over 10 years. meanwhile, john boehner is working on his own deficit- reduction debt limit increase plan. he would take -- that plan would be affected in two stages. the first would be $900 trillion or so deficit reduction package, spending cuts, paired with roughly equal amount in debt limit increase. then he would empower a special committee to find an additional $1.60 trillion to authorize or trigger another increase in the debt ceiling. the problem with this proposal, however, it would require raising the debt ceiling by the requisite $2.40 trillion amount into the stages. that is something the president and democratic leaders after yesterday's said is a nonstarter. they say it would create too much uncertainty for the marketplace and the economy if this process had to be replaced at the beginning of next year or summer of next year. >> the house republicans made their own at last it with a cap and balance
not know exactly what is going to do, but is expected he is going to count winding down the war in afghanistan as a substantial part of the savings. that could be worth about $1 trillion over 10 years. meanwhile, john boehner is working on his own deficit- reduction debt limit increase plan. he would take -- that plan would be affected in two stages. the first would be $900 trillion or so deficit reduction package, spending cuts, paired with roughly equal amount in debt limit increase. then he...
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and afghanistan prohibiting afghanistan from taxing u.s. subcontractors doing work in afghanistan. so this ban on levying taxes would apply to all subcontractors that may not have direct contracts with afghanistan. in other words, if a company is working on a project funded by the u.s. department of defense, whether that company is a prime contractor or subcontractor, that company should not be subject to taxes from the afghan government. seems pretty simple. these are the contractors doing the work of rebuilding in afghanistan, helping rebuild the infrastructure and hopefully allowing them to one day thrive independently. common sense and financial prudentens says the u.s. should not be subject to taxation for the rebuilding efforts it is paying for. and that was what we were getting at with this amendment. mr. kingston: i think the point that you have raised is a very valid point and something that's very good discussion matter. unfortunately, we believe that it is authorizing an appropriation as the chair has confirmed. but that probably, the concern far more than the philosophi
and afghanistan prohibiting afghanistan from taxing u.s. subcontractors doing work in afghanistan. so this ban on levying taxes would apply to all subcontractors that may not have direct contracts with afghanistan. in other words, if a company is working on a project funded by the u.s. department of defense, whether that company is a prime contractor or subcontractor, that company should not be subject to taxes from the afghan government. seems pretty simple. these are the contractors doing the...
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from afghanistan. can i commend him for setting a timetable because that is the way to accelerate the process in kabul and make president hamid karzai set up and engage in some of the talks that are already taking place and i agree with my right hon. friend is wrong to internationalize this process. it has to be done through tribal structures in afghanistan and fought by themselves and for themselves. is not something we can supervise from the un. >> i thank my hon. friend for his questioning. across the house -- has to the afghan led. we don't want to see a sort of bad tribal -- that would lead to future instability. clearly it has got to be a proper reconciliation process. what i am scene and a timetable has existed, is a positive engagement from afghanistan and pakistan in talking about their shared future and in the end we can push and encourage and work with but in the end those two countries have to make decisions together about how to be more secure. >> welcome the fact that peace negotiations a
from afghanistan. can i commend him for setting a timetable because that is the way to accelerate the process in kabul and make president hamid karzai set up and engage in some of the talks that are already taking place and i agree with my right hon. friend is wrong to internationalize this process. it has to be done through tribal structures in afghanistan and fought by themselves and for themselves. is not something we can supervise from the un. >> i thank my hon. friend for his...
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good morning to those here, good evening in afghanistan. i'd like to welcome pack to the pentagon briefing room, army lieutenant general david rodriguez. he's commander of the international security assistance force joint command, also known as i.j.c. and also the deputy commander of the united states forces afghanistan. general rodriguez's current tour began in june, 2009, he became the first commander of the i.j.c. in october of that year. prior to that, general rodriguez was commander of regional command east for 15 months from january, 2007 to april, 2008. next week after two straight years in command and more than 40 months in after gap stan over the past 4 1/2 year, general rodriguez is ski wruled to change command and return stateside to have u.s. army forces command. the general most recently joined us here in person last february and we're very grate to feel see him this morning via satellite for an update on operations before he changes command. with that, general, i'll return it to you. >> good morning, dave. thank you for that i
good morning to those here, good evening in afghanistan. i'd like to welcome pack to the pentagon briefing room, army lieutenant general david rodriguez. he's commander of the international security assistance force joint command, also known as i.j.c. and also the deputy commander of the united states forces afghanistan. general rodriguez's current tour began in june, 2009, he became the first commander of the i.j.c. in october of that year. prior to that, general rodriguez was commander of...
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troops in southern afghanistan. then, representative thaddeus mccotter announces his candidacy for president. >> tune in to c-span this independent state. panelists discuss if the united states can remain united. >> at the political level, we are more divided. you look at partisan polarization at any point since the civil war and reconstruction. >> then, religion, bonds, and the death penalty. later, nixon white house insiders discuss his foreign policy. this monday on c-span. for the complete schedule, go to c-span.org. >> david axe was imbedded with the u.s. army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the vi
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whether it is a rack or afghanistan, let's pay for is we do not run into the situation where we have massive deficits to deal with. plano, texas. dan on the republican line. caller: i would suggest that we consider the fact that before we allow these corrupt politicians to go after social security or medicare that we rectify the unhealthy situation in medicaid. what i mean by that is virtually every illegal alien in the country is on medicaid and thanks to the efforts of organizations such as catholic charities, which provide three -- free paralegal service to illegal aliens to sign them up for welfare benefits this country has to offer. it seems to me that is borderline treason. be that as it may, there are huge amounts of money to be saved if we just start with medicaid and a fraud that exists there. guest: i agree with the first part of a phone call where we should keep politicians' hands off of social security and protect medicare. i disagree with the second part in the sense that -- let me agree with in the fraud. we have to grope for any fraud. what we should not do is agitate
whether it is a rack or afghanistan, let's pay for is we do not run into the situation where we have massive deficits to deal with. plano, texas. dan on the republican line. caller: i would suggest that we consider the fact that before we allow these corrupt politicians to go after social security or medicare that we rectify the unhealthy situation in medicaid. what i mean by that is virtually every illegal alien in the country is on medicaid and thanks to the efforts of organizations such as...
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i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do not have any part of that whatsoever. we have a very strict company policy against bribes, and we'd just do not participate in that. on several locations, it costs us delays. we have had to suffer because we did not agree to play that game. but we really do not. >> mr. walker? >> we have seen no evidence of our security personnel providing bribes. the casualties that we're taking would indicate that that is not something that we sponsor or that our security provides. >> i assume as the security costs went way up, the casualties went dow
i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do...
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we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has always been just your point. i think he was influenced by the idea that, look i'm not sure this is going to work but i'm not prepared not to the do it and see what the consequens are. i'm mo prepared to do in the this case because i've described this as a war of choice... i've described this as a war of necessity, not choice, as iq was characterized a aar choice. >> i think you're absolutely on it and what we tried to do literally in chapter 9 of this book is to describe the mind-set of obama when he was handling time and time again questions relating to afghanistan. for example, in the su
we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has...
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back to afghanistan, perception is reality. the difference between transitioning to afghan control in a reasoned way and withdrawalling from the fight is american is important. the perception i am finding on the ground that the announcement of the president is more of a withdrawn than transition. that has to be corrected or it could jeopardize the whole operations. remember what iran is up to. remember what syria is up to. remember what the taliban and our al-qaeda want. they want to dominate this region, to destroy what we're fighting for. which is basic freedom. we are in a titanic struggle with unsave sorry characters -- unsavory characters. the outcome does matter to us. if we win and help the people, we're all safer. if the people fight back in the region are overtaken by the forces we'll all pay a price. a lot is at stake. >> i agree, and i just want to add on the fourth of july weekend, we're here because we were attacked from here on 9/11. and if we don't succeed here, and the taliban comes back in to power, we'll be at
back to afghanistan, perception is reality. the difference between transitioning to afghan control in a reasoned way and withdrawalling from the fight is american is important. the perception i am finding on the ground that the announcement of the president is more of a withdrawn than transition. that has to be corrected or it could jeopardize the whole operations. remember what iran is up to. remember what syria is up to. remember what the taliban and our al-qaeda want. they want to dominate...
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it includes savings from winding down the war in iraq and afghanistan. real savings scored at about $1 trillion at the cbo. we know that some republicans will quibble over these savings, but they have no leg to stand on. the wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cuts. if conducting these wards adds to the debt, it is undeniable that there will be savings. the administration tells us that with a wind down in place in iraq and afghanistan, they can prosecute the war is over the next decade. the cbo assumes $1.67 trillion through 2021 by adopting the lower number in the administration. we know that the republicans agreed with at this math, because they included the exact same savings in the rye and budget that passed the house. they never criticize the accounting than. it is hard to see how they could do so now. lastly, senator reid in his proposal allows for deeper savings down the road. all in all, this is an offer that republicans cannot refuse. all of the cuts in the senator's proposal have been supported, at one p
it includes savings from winding down the war in iraq and afghanistan. real savings scored at about $1 trillion at the cbo. we know that some republicans will quibble over these savings, but they have no leg to stand on. the wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cuts. if conducting these wards adds to the debt, it is undeniable that there will be savings. the administration tells us that with a wind down in place in iraq and afghanistan, they can prosecute...
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we are borrowing $10 billion a month for afghanistan. and yet we're saying we're going to balance the budget by going after poor people, senior citizens, by going after pell grants. if people talk about jobs. you have to invest to create jobs. you cut these programs and it is hard to be competitive in these economies. when you cut money for education and transportation infrastructure, it becomes more difficult to become competitive. we need to be smart about this. this approach of exempting corporate welfare, to me, is egregious. let me finally say this, and that is, i will and as i began here, i thought we would be coming back talking about how we're getting closer. and this built the best i can, i hope this is just bad political theater -- but this bill is a sharp right turn grid it moves us further away from where i thought we were getting too. i hope it does not delay our ability to come to some sort of an agreement between the congressional leadership and the white house. i hope this is not something that further fuels this notion t
we are borrowing $10 billion a month for afghanistan. and yet we're saying we're going to balance the budget by going after poor people, senior citizens, by going after pell grants. if people talk about jobs. you have to invest to create jobs. you cut these programs and it is hard to be competitive in these economies. when you cut money for education and transportation infrastructure, it becomes more difficult to become competitive. we need to be smart about this. this approach of exempting...
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part -- the other factor is that we are now drawing down the cost of our military efforts in afghanistan and iraq. last year we spent a little over $150 billion. this year we'll spend a little over $100 billion. and the plan is to soon be down to at least $50 billion in two or three years. so over the ten-year period there'll be about eight years at nearly $50 billion or so spent on the war instead of $150 billion. that's part of thelan that we've been operating on for a long time. $150 billion for the w is not baseline expenditure of the united states. it was never projected to continue at that level, so hopefully we could bring it below $50 billion. maybe we went get to $50 billion. i don't know. but what is the reasonable estimate? i think the house republicans and the president said it would drop to $50 billion, and that would be the baseline out there for the rest of the time. that's $1 trillion. that's $1 trillion. so you take $1 trillion out of the $2.7 trillion, you're down to $1.7 trlion. and another thing that's scored in tt, since that $1 trillion in war costs is scored the wa
part -- the other factor is that we are now drawing down the cost of our military efforts in afghanistan and iraq. last year we spent a little over $150 billion. this year we'll spend a little over $100 billion. and the plan is to soon be down to at least $50 billion in two or three years. so over the ten-year period there'll be about eight years at nearly $50 billion or so spent on the war instead of $150 billion. that's part of thelan that we've been operating on for a long time. $150 billion...
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billion for the pentagon's primary budget another one hundred and nineteen billion for the wars in afghanistan and iraq and that does not include any downsizing quite the opposite that boosts the pentagon's budget by seventeen billion dollars so that includes five point nine billion to buy thirty two of lockheed martin's after thirty five joint strike fighters fifteen point one billion to build ten navy ships and a three point three billion for twenty eight of boeing's f. eighteen super hornet fighter jets and the whole bill also doesn't include funds for u.s. nuclear weapons programs or military construction which usually come in other bills and end up adding about thirty three billion dollars more to the fan spending so it looks like congress has said sorry america your social security your medicare and medicaid have probably got to go because the pentagon needs more jets here to discuss this with me as lawrence wilkerson retired u.s. army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell our thanks so much for being on the show as always well gosh this sounds like it's a fun day to be at th
billion for the pentagon's primary budget another one hundred and nineteen billion for the wars in afghanistan and iraq and that does not include any downsizing quite the opposite that boosts the pentagon's budget by seventeen billion dollars so that includes five point nine billion to buy thirty two of lockheed martin's after thirty five joint strike fighters fifteen point one billion to build ten navy ships and a three point three billion for twenty eight of boeing's f. eighteen super hornet...
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just got a new ambassador to afghanistan today ryan crocker was sworn in as the new u.s. ambassador to the war stricken country and he's starting out with a bang already making some pretty strong statements first starters crocker has already explained that there will be no rush to exit from the country and then he went on to say we have no interest in permanent bases in afghanistan we will stay as long as we need to. and not one day more what exactly does that mean and frankly that comment is caught many people off guard including myself because of all of the statements about staying however long we need to in afghanistan despite that two thousand and fourteen deadline after all there are plenty of reasons why the u.s. would have an interest in keeping a permanent base there first of all there's a sour relations between the u.s. and pakistan and then there's the fact that afghanistan itself is nowhere near stable in fact many predict that the country will descend into violence the second america reduces their presence in any significant way and listen to how senator linds
just got a new ambassador to afghanistan today ryan crocker was sworn in as the new u.s. ambassador to the war stricken country and he's starting out with a bang already making some pretty strong statements first starters crocker has already explained that there will be no rush to exit from the country and then he went on to say we have no interest in permanent bases in afghanistan we will stay as long as we need to. and not one day more what exactly does that mean and frankly that comment is...
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under whose watch did we have wars in afghanistan that we started? under his watch, the economy faltered that we had to rescue it from going off of a cliff. republicans are equally responsible if not more responsible than democrats for th situation we are in now. host: when the democrats had control, why didn't they raise taxes? guest: i agreed that raising taxes on people making over $250,000 was a good idea. obamantroduced a budget that called for that. by the end of 200010, -- 2010, the tax cuts were going to expire. there was a situation where the economy could get even worse. we will not extend a tax cuts for the middle class. if you do that, extend it for the rich. -- and he said, i will sacrifice to reach a compromise. he has shown that willingness many times over. host: republican line, for lauderdale florida. caller: i am very fearful of something going on with the politics of the united states into the discussion going on now. i see the democratic party developing what i call. you elt me, and i will get other people's money and take care of
under whose watch did we have wars in afghanistan that we started? under his watch, the economy faltered that we had to rescue it from going off of a cliff. republicans are equally responsible if not more responsible than democrats for th situation we are in now. host: when the democrats had control, why didn't they raise taxes? guest: i agreed that raising taxes on people making over $250,000 was a good idea. obamantroduced a budget that called for that. by the end of 200010, -- 2010, the tax...
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and then in afghanistan. i was only able to meet a small sample of those deployed downrange, it was important for me to look them in the eye one last time and let them know how much i care about them and appreciate what they and their families do for our country. looking forward to this moment, i knew it would be difficult to adequately express my feelings for these young men and women. at least in a way that would allow me to get through this speech. yesterday a personal message from me to all of our servicemen and women around the world was published and distributed through military channels. i will just say here that i will think of these young warriors, the ones who fought, the ones who keep on fighting, the ones who never made it back, until the end of my days. as as contemplating this moment, i thought about something becky told me in january of 2005 when i was asked to be the first director of national intelligence. i was wrestling with the decision and finally told her she could make it easier if she
and then in afghanistan. i was only able to meet a small sample of those deployed downrange, it was important for me to look them in the eye one last time and let them know how much i care about them and appreciate what they and their families do for our country. looking forward to this moment, i knew it would be difficult to adequately express my feelings for these young men and women. at least in a way that would allow me to get through this speech. yesterday a personal message from me to all...
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to come to its because there are some figures out there is also that say that our wars in iraq and afghanistan have cost us three point seven trillion dollars and counting and that pretty soon that will be up over fortunately i mean it really is is there a god willing it's there it's insane as one congressman said to me when i was testifying before the senate foreign relations committee and almost knocked me off my chair it doesn't matter colonel we can print more. and that's the attitude and that's what's been going on now what has been happening is that while they have pretty easily get to pass a new defense budget at least the house of representatives there has been a little bit of a tussle and bustle over a few democrats that are coming out and try to block funds try to tie obama's hands when it came to afghanistan and bringing troops home of course that is because it has once again tried to tie the president's hands when it came to libya and all of that failed but the one thing they did pass was. bill that barred arming was supplying weapons to training the rebels in libya but already doi
to come to its because there are some figures out there is also that say that our wars in iraq and afghanistan have cost us three point seven trillion dollars and counting and that pretty soon that will be up over fortunately i mean it really is is there a god willing it's there it's insane as one congressman said to me when i was testifying before the senate foreign relations committee and almost knocked me off my chair it doesn't matter colonel we can print more. and that's the attitude and...
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report on the war in afghanistan that directly contradicts military officials are telling us lawmakers so who should we believe then we'll show you a blatant example of hypocrisy by the white house in the double standard that they have when it comes to leaking classified information and debt ceiling madness time is running out and republicans that won't budge so can somebody believe tell us what is wrong with these people we have all of that and more for you tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has missed. this is that the end for the casey anthony trial my friends today a verdict was reached and it was read out loud. own. dog dropping moment they sought the death penalty against this woman and she got convicted of four misdemeanors this is a historic rejection of the prosecution's case the attorney who was once dubbed as somewhat hapless in this process now looks like a genius for basically that's right the case is over benito done so and all the rest of us are going to be letting out size of relief that we no longer have to e
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what happens in afghanistan is irrelevant. the only thing that matters is what obama appeals will be best for his reelection campaign. guest: when it comes down to the commander in chief, he is the one that dictates orders for the military. we have been in afghanistan for almost a decade and next year will be over a decade. when it comes down to it, if president obama says that we need to be out of there now, regardless of what is going on on the ground, that is totally acceptable there will never be of point where afghanistan is where we wanted to be. -- want it to be. i think he has done the responsible thing and left. host: last call for our round table. caller: i have two comments. the gop has had one agenda only since 2009 -- to defeat president obama in 2020. even if it means bringing thought only the coury but rhaps the world to financial disaster. my second comment is regarding the corporate jets. $2 billion here and $2 billion there, it had sought ultimately. -- it adds up ultimately. our ideology straight. guest: i r
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hear the new ambassador to afghanistan for the u.s. is not interested in permanent military bases in the country really and i suspect in the twin terrorist attacks in norway appears to be a homegrown terrorists but some members of the media here in the u.s. tried to blame the muslim moments following the attack tonight we ask who should we really be concerned about when it comes to terrorist threats. into the only mechanism to go to bring justice or. i have the right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think actually. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see the story and the scene so. you think you understand it and then something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you saw you don't charge is a big. number that we can afford. i think the beautiful and well. we have to go to the shows that are. actually get ready for freedom. well the u.s. has got a new ambassador to afghanistan today ryan crocker was sworn in as the new
hear the new ambassador to afghanistan for the u.s. is not interested in permanent military bases in the country really and i suspect in the twin terrorist attacks in norway appears to be a homegrown terrorists but some members of the media here in the u.s. tried to blame the muslim moments following the attack tonight we ask who should we really be concerned about when it comes to terrorist threats. into the only mechanism to go to bring justice or. i have the right to know what my government...
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well, they say that the savings from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan don't count. specifically, they say that these savings are -- quote -- "a widely ridiculed accounting gimmick that breeds cynicism." unquote. yet all but three of the 43 senators who signed this letter voted for the ryan budget on may 25 this year. that budget counted the same drawdowns as almost identical in savings. so those savings were legitimate enough to secure their support for the ryan budget but not legitimate enough to secure their support for leader reid's debt ceiling compromise. and here we are on the precipice, and suddenly they've done a 180-degree turn. either these savings count or they don't. you can't have it both ways. so we are proposing exactly what republicans have been saying that they want. yet instead of accepting this deal, they're using what precious time we have left to push forward with their agenda, and it's not even their agenda. it's the tea party agenda. their radical agenda is a wolf in sheep's clothing. last night we voted down speaker boehner's plan which requi
well, they say that the savings from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan don't count. specifically, they say that these savings are -- quote -- "a widely ridiculed accounting gimmick that breeds cynicism." unquote. yet all but three of the 43 senators who signed this letter voted for the ryan budget on may 25 this year. that budget counted the same drawdowns as almost identical in savings. so those savings were legitimate enough to secure their support for the ryan budget...
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not know exactly what is going to do, but is expected he is going to count winding down the war in afghanistan as a substantial part of the savings. that could be worth about $1 trillion over 10 years. meanwhile, john boehner is working on his own deficit- reduction debt limit increase plan. he would take -- that plan would be affected in two stages. the first would be $900 trillion or so deficit reduction package, spending cuts, paired with roughly equal amount in debt limit increase. then he would empower a special committee to find an additional $1.60 trillion to authorize or trigger another increase in the debt ceiling. the problem with this proposal, however, it would require raising the debt ceiling by the requisite $2.40 trillion amount into the stages. that is something the president and democratic leaders after yesterday's said is a nonstarter. they say it would create too much uncertainty for the marketplace and the economy if this process had to be replaced at the beginning of next year or summer of next year. >> the house republicans made their own at last it with a cap and balance
not know exactly what is going to do, but is expected he is going to count winding down the war in afghanistan as a substantial part of the savings. that could be worth about $1 trillion over 10 years. meanwhile, john boehner is working on his own deficit- reduction debt limit increase plan. he would take -- that plan would be affected in two stages. the first would be $900 trillion or so deficit reduction package, spending cuts, paired with roughly equal amount in debt limit increase. then he...
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afghanistan has come a long way. today afghanistan is no longer a haven for global terr. its economy is growing. it has a developing legal system and basic building blocks of what could be a successful democracy. in helmand province which we should remember with cantar was a stronghold of taliban and the insurgency there's a growing economy -- one of the areas to include in the first phase of transition, is a sign of the transformation we helped to bring about. as we enter this new phase of transition i'm sure the house will want to join me in paying tribute to our for service men and women who have made such incredible sacrifices to defend our national security. we have been going about our daily lives, they have been fighting in the heat and the dust giving up the things we take for granted. that is the true character of the british army and why we are so proud of all our forces and the families who support them and we are so grateful for everything they do and i commend this statement to the house. >> mr. speaker, i join the prime minister paying tribute to our forces
afghanistan has come a long way. today afghanistan is no longer a haven for global terr. its economy is growing. it has a developing legal system and basic building blocks of what could be a successful democracy. in helmand province which we should remember with cantar was a stronghold of taliban and the insurgency there's a growing economy -- one of the areas to include in the first phase of transition, is a sign of the transformation we helped to bring about. as we enter this new phase of...
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number one, there's very little local government infrastructure in afghanistan. the fact that we build a road or a school doesn't mean there's a government or authority to maintain it. so we build something, the moment we turn the keys over it falls into disuse and disrepair. second, the expense of doing this is enormous. you know, it may make sense to to these civic projects that do create some good will, but to do them, mr. speaker, in a middle of a shooting war or is it better to do it before or after the war when you have a chance to -- for this implementation to occur? third, there's an immense amount of ripping off of money from the american taxpayer. it goes -- it gets lost, it gets picked up. it's too rampant in afghanistan. so according to a report in "the washington post," and, mr. speaker, i will be asking you to submit "the washington post" in the record, half of this money, minimum of $400 million, has gone missing. it's wasted and it's coming out of our taxpayer pockets. our amendment, my amendment would cut in half the $400 million, reduce it to $0
number one, there's very little local government infrastructure in afghanistan. the fact that we build a road or a school doesn't mean there's a government or authority to maintain it. so we build something, the moment we turn the keys over it falls into disuse and disrepair. second, the expense of doing this is enormous. you know, it may make sense to to these civic projects that do create some good will, but to do them, mr. speaker, in a middle of a shooting war or is it better to do it...
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i could see afghanistan. if the two and $9 a week that we were spending -- imagines -- 2 $1 million a week that we are spending -- a match and if that was given to the states. if we can spend nine years at two hundred million dollars a week, all we can afford to put that in our economy. guest: my comment on that statement would be that once we did commit to sending u.s. troops to iraq and afghanistan we owe it to them to support them in any way that we can. when you're talking about how much the wars are costing one it is in terms of assistance, or the support for our troops, it is important to separate the mission from what the operations are costing and trying to get folks back home. . host: next up is buford, county, south carolina. caller: thank you. thank you to the viewers who keep us informed. i am a small farmer. it is hard for me because of the economy and the jobs, and if it was not for my father, my grandfather, a world war two veteran, i would not know where i was -- would be for this military. mi
i could see afghanistan. if the two and $9 a week that we were spending -- imagines -- 2 $1 million a week that we are spending -- a match and if that was given to the states. if we can spend nine years at two hundred million dollars a week, all we can afford to put that in our economy. guest: my comment on that statement would be that once we did commit to sending u.s. troops to iraq and afghanistan we owe it to them to support them in any way that we can. when you're talking about how much...
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he and i joined forces to do in that on afghanistan -- to do a letter on afghanistan on ending our nation building strategy, and we did a town hall meeting. i worked with a conservative republican on trying to lower the cost of prescription drugs. i worked with joe barton from texas, who denies global warming is a problem, and we worked on an energy efficiency bill. i find this much more satisfying to look for areas where we share something, common ground, and do it together. sure, when it comes to the election, i will be for the democrats by and large. working with republicans is really important for me to have a chance at being successful. host: next call comes from alabama. go ahead, ashley. democrat. caller: i was calling to see how cut, cap and balance the tax social security for the impaired, the disabled people who cannot work? host: thank you, ashley. guest: if you are on social security disability, you will still be getting social security benefits. social security is a separate program that is self-funded. it should not be something that is used as a pt bank -- as a piggy bank t
he and i joined forces to do in that on afghanistan -- to do a letter on afghanistan on ending our nation building strategy, and we did a town hall meeting. i worked with a conservative republican on trying to lower the cost of prescription drugs. i worked with joe barton from texas, who denies global warming is a problem, and we worked on an energy efficiency bill. i find this much more satisfying to look for areas where we share something, common ground, and do it together. sure, when it...
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ambassador, have you lived in afghanistan? guest: i grew up in afghanistan. i was educated in afghanistan. i received my master's degree in afghanistan and have worked in afghanistan. caller: what is the price of fuel in afghanistan for gas and diesel? guest: for a gallon, is the equivalent of -- is the equivalent of $1.20. caller: $1.20 a gallon? last week on c-span, a u.s. representative from ohio quoted that gasoline costs $400 a gallon. i am glad there is no corruption in the united states but they are paying $400 a gallon for fuel. i do not think they're buying it from afghanistan. guest: you announced me a question about how much of the gasoline price is. i gave you the answer for the cost in the afghanistan market. -- you asked me a question about how much of the gasoline prices. where they get from, i do not know. the purposes they are using the gas for, i also do not know. the price i am giving you is the price in the local markets. host: this question is from twitter about secret talks going on with the taliban. do you feel the taliban should be par
ambassador, have you lived in afghanistan? guest: i grew up in afghanistan. i was educated in afghanistan. i received my master's degree in afghanistan and have worked in afghanistan. caller: what is the price of fuel in afghanistan for gas and diesel? guest: for a gallon, is the equivalent of -- is the equivalent of $1.20. caller: $1.20 a gallon? last week on c-span, a u.s. representative from ohio quoted that gasoline costs $400 a gallon. i am glad there is no corruption in the united states...
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i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do not have any part of that whatsoever. we have a very strict company policy against bribes, and we'd just do not participate in that. on several locations, it costs us delays. we have had to suffer because we did not agree to play that game. but we really do not. >> mr. walker? >> we have seen no evidence of our security personnel providing bribes. the casualties that we're taking would indicate that that is not something that we sponsor or that our security provides. >> i assume as the security costs went way up, the casualties went dow
i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do...
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forces in afghanistan. thank you all for your many years of great service to this nation and your willingness to serve once again let me extend our thanks to your families to support. i would invite each of you to introduce any family members or friends who may be here with you when you make your opening remarks. the general thurman nomination as the next commander of u.s. forces in korea comes at a time of significant change would simmering tension on the korean peninsula. our commitment to peace and stability in the region remains steadfast. our alliance with the republic of korea is as strong as ever. the strength of that alliance will be particularly important over the next few years as we embark on an ambitious realignment of our forces in the peninsula and the to do with the unpredictable and aggressive behavior of a north korean regime that continues to fall of the destructive path of an international pariah. general thurman's long experience in positions of leadership and maintaining well- trained e
forces in afghanistan. thank you all for your many years of great service to this nation and your willingness to serve once again let me extend our thanks to your families to support. i would invite each of you to introduce any family members or friends who may be here with you when you make your opening remarks. the general thurman nomination as the next commander of u.s. forces in korea comes at a time of significant change would simmering tension on the korean peninsula. our commitment to...
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beyond afghanistan and iraq, the u.s. bases, as i said, a multitude of other strategic and institutional challenges. we must reset a stressed force, we must prepare for emerging threats, cyber attackers, nuclear proliferation, rising powers that will demand that we work towards greater transparency and better diplomacy. and we must do all we can so that we recognize that in this effort we do not have a blank check from the american people, that we will face the physical challenges that confront us, but we will do it in a way that maintains the strength of our country. based on my long experience in government and in working with budgets, i really believe that we do not have to make a choice between fiscal discipline and national security. by setting priorities based on sound strategy, based on good policy, we can focus a strong and innovative defense policy that confronts the future and deals with the threats that we will face in the future, and that focuses those resources we need at those threats of today and tomorrow.
beyond afghanistan and iraq, the u.s. bases, as i said, a multitude of other strategic and institutional challenges. we must reset a stressed force, we must prepare for emerging threats, cyber attackers, nuclear proliferation, rising powers that will demand that we work towards greater transparency and better diplomacy. and we must do all we can so that we recognize that in this effort we do not have a blank check from the american people, that we will face the physical challenges that confront...
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them bill you know the afghanistan or could they certainly don't report. michael i know you are a veteran why do you think that means our feeling seeing the departure of robert gates is there hope that anything will change adding something he was a leaves washington he leaves his position very well respected by a lot of people certainly much more so than his predecessor but i'm wondering michael what you think that friends like yourself are thinking today. well veterans like myself people who have been sent to fight and die and lose limbs and to commit crimes against people that are not our enemies those who are in the military today i don't think we're at all honoring robert gates in service because you know he's never done a foot patrol in helmand province you never gone on a convoy in iraq but he's ordered lots of us to do it with great bloodshed as a result the reality is the war in afghanistan is not about al qaeda the war in iraq it's not about national defense or freeing the iraqi people these are wars for empire but they're not our empire it's not
them bill you know the afghanistan or could they certainly don't report. michael i know you are a veteran why do you think that means our feeling seeing the departure of robert gates is there hope that anything will change adding something he was a leaves washington he leaves his position very well respected by a lot of people certainly much more so than his predecessor but i'm wondering michael what you think that friends like yourself are thinking today. well veterans like myself people who...
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is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual circumstances. the question still remains. i am trying to draw a parallel but not an analogy. the int still remains. we have to decide whether or not we will have a worldwide military presence in the sense of actual interference or trying to own situations, political situations, by military means. that this really affects every single thing have spoken about today. >> i agree there will be trade- offs and we will have to face up to that. there's no question. we are the tent pole that holds up the world. i am not sure how comfortable i would be in hawaii if china control the pacific. there is one thing that your question raises and i can tell you for sure that we are headed for a time of trade-offs, ok? we cannot simply jump in everywhere that we want. if i have to have a trade-off, then the ones i am looking for where i would consider participating ar
is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual circumstances. the question still remains. i am trying to draw a parallel but not an analogy. the int still remains. we have to decide whether or not we will have a worldwide military presence in the sense of actual interference or trying to own situations, political situations, by military means....
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>> through the afghanistan constitution, and afghanistan has made huge steps forward. and so knowing president karzai as i do, i know he wouldn't agree to an afghanistan that was miles away from the sort of human rights and development he wants to see progressed. however, i do think we got to have a hierarchy, as it prrks and the hierarchy of need from the u.k.'s point of view is to focus on security and the capacity the afghan government has to secure its own country. otherings things do have to take their place behind that. >> mr. john woodcock. >> the prime minister seems to be guaranteeing that the 12 orders will be ordered, is that right? >> one of the things we made will be ordered. >> mccloud. >> peace and civility in afghanistan, it can't help by leaving a long-term lasting legacy. [inaudible] it's really important for education for all, especially young girls. >> i do agree we want to see a long-term stable afghanistan that cannot be possible from excluding half the population from education. you have a right to cross north afghan in the middle east. you have
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but with the iraq war logs, the afghanistan war laws, and the u.s. cables that have yet to be fully release, i would say that julian assange is perhaps the most widely published purpose on earth. -- person on earth. today will have a conversation about information and i would like to ask julianne to begin -- julian to begin by going back to that moment in 2007, and talk about the significance of those for you and why you have chosen to release this information. >> amy, on that criteria, perhaps rupert murdoch's goal most widely published person on earth, and people have said that australia has given two people to the world, rupert murdoch and me. begin publishing. [laughter] in some ways, things are very easy for us and for me. we make a promise to sources that if they give us material of a certain type of significance, of diplomatic, historic, or ethical significance, and they are under a certain threat, we will publish it. that is actually and up. we have a goal with publishing material. it has been my long-term believe that what advances of civili
but with the iraq war logs, the afghanistan war laws, and the u.s. cables that have yet to be fully release, i would say that julian assange is perhaps the most widely published purpose on earth. -- person on earth. today will have a conversation about information and i would like to ask julianne to begin -- julian to begin by going back to that moment in 2007, and talk about the significance of those for you and why you have chosen to release this information. >> amy, on that criteria,...
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troops in southeastern afghanistan celebrated with a flag raising ceremony. it may be the last july 4th spent in afghanistan. the draw down of u.s. troops is set to begin. president obama ordered reduction of 10,000 by the end of the year and another 23,000 by september, 2012. some leaders say the withdrawal plan is more aggressive than anticipated. >> sarah showered began a hunger strike to protest the continued detention of two fellow uc berkeley alumni. they were arrested almost two years ago hiking along the border. and the release on bail last year, she announced she'd not return to stand trial. bower and fattal's trials were set to begin at the end of the month. uc werkly -- berkeley alumni will take turns fasting to demand the release. >>> a group of canadian activists attempting to sail through the sea blockade were blocked from leaving a greek port today this, is the second time that a boat belonging to the flotilla was turned back. on friday, the greek coast guard and commandos stopped the boat from leaving and arrested the boat's captain. forces ra
troops in southeastern afghanistan celebrated with a flag raising ceremony. it may be the last july 4th spent in afghanistan. the draw down of u.s. troops is set to begin. president obama ordered reduction of 10,000 by the end of the year and another 23,000 by september, 2012. some leaders say the withdrawal plan is more aggressive than anticipated. >> sarah showered began a hunger strike to protest the continued detention of two fellow uc berkeley alumni. they were arrested almost two...
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afghanistan coalition warplanes fired weapons and dropped bombs five thousand eight hundred and thirty one times that's a sixty five percent increase in the twelve months prior to that to even wonder want to know how much those five thousand eight hundred thirty one bombs and weapons cost not to mention of course the lives that may have been lost civilian lives and here's another two that the mainstream television media isn't reporting on about the standing lawyers now suing the cia for its drone strikes in pakistan that have led to civilian deaths don't forget because when you strike something with lethal force there are consequences and although this particular lawyer. has been to the us and many times before the state department has just prevented him from traveling here for a conference on human rights isn't that nice and fair and democratic of them it's hypocrisy in the mainstream media just turns a blind eye so that's what they miss. so while the mainstream media is ignoring the ramping up of our air campaign in afghanistan they've also missed another big report that quite frankl
afghanistan coalition warplanes fired weapons and dropped bombs five thousand eight hundred and thirty one times that's a sixty five percent increase in the twelve months prior to that to even wonder want to know how much those five thousand eight hundred thirty one bombs and weapons cost not to mention of course the lives that may have been lost civilian lives and here's another two that the mainstream television media isn't reporting on about the standing lawyers now suing the cia for its...
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is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual circumstances. the question still remains. i am trying to draw a parallel but not an analogy. the point still remains. we have to decide whether or not we will have a worldwide military presence in the sense of actual interference or trying to own situations, political situations, by military means. that this really affects every single thing have spoken about today. >> i agree there will be trade- offs and we will have to face up to that. there's no question. we are the tent pole that holds up the world. i am not sure how comfortable i would be in hawaii if china control the pacific. there is one thing that your question raises and i can tell you for sure that we are headed for a time of trade-offs, ok? we cannot simply jump in everywhere that we want. if i have to have a trade-off, then the ones i am looking for where i would consider participating
is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual circumstances. the question still remains. i am trying to draw a parallel but not an analogy. the point still remains. we have to decide whether or not we will have a worldwide military presence in the sense of actual interference or trying to own situations, political situations, by military means....